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You make a good point JN, that is why I am anxious to see what they are able to acheive out of the gate.
Posted by
Physboy,
Monday, Sep. 22nd, 2008
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Like I said before Phys, I wouldn't expect TOO much from Android out of the gate. I have a sneaky feeling some of the first devices will get attention because the OS is new but I still think the OS will need to go thru some evolution to truly reach "cool" status.
Posted by
JNGold,
Monday, Sep. 22nd, 2008
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Blue, have a look at the following benchmark:
http://phonereport.info/2008/08/14/touch-pro-diamond-comparison-pics-benchmark/
Regarding more battery capacity leading to better performance, there is no pixie dust required. It is pretty basic that if you have to worry less about conserving power, you can let the processor have some breathing room with the power management routines. In addition, when you have more RAM, you do not have to do as much paging to ROM as when you have less RAM. This also leads to improved performance, and is analagous to the relationship between virtual and physical memory in PCs and MACs. The more RAM you have the less paging is necessary to slower memory media.
The bottom line again is that the HD, like the Pro will be faster than the Diamond without sacrificing anything at all.
The HD is dangerously close to a true iPhone killer and the iFans are squirming in their pants. HD has better video than iPhone and waaaaaay more functionality out of the box. I am only hoping that Android will bring it when it comes out in October of this year, contrary to a bunch of other disinformed individuals stating that it was going to be delayed until 2009.
Posted by
Physboy,
Monday, Sep. 22nd, 2008
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Physboy, battery capacity improving performance? Only with a smattering of pixy dust. Touch Pro faster than the Diamond? Both use the same chipset running at the same VCC. The PRO has more RAM, but is being used by a graphics accelerator? Don't know. (It may be that the extra RAM is needed to support the video out connector.)
Regardless, I don't think it prudent to by overly optimistic about a UI's responsiveness based on pre-shipping firmware, and maybe not for a couple of firmware revs after a device ships. Having owned a Touch, an iPhone 3G, and now a Omnia, I'm very confident about not being confident concerning the (un)laggy-ness of the HD. Still, it's on my short list for Christmas.
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I am getting a little concerned about the lack of any kind of d-pad or scrolling assistance. HTC will need to really nail down the kinetic scrolling and improve it over recent touches.
Also, the lack of a center action button (on the d-pad) is used in several applications that I use. I also find it very convienient to use in various applications.
Posted by
JNGold,
Sunday, Sep. 21st, 2008
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That is true JN, but the same advantage of 'tweeked' software is in the Pro and HD but with better hardware. Bottom line both will perform better than the Diamond without ANY need for loss of features. In addition, there have already been benchmarks published showing this fact with the Pro vs Diamond as well.
Posted by
Physboy,
Saturday, Sep. 20th, 2008
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I don't know phys the latest diamond releases look look pretty swift to me. tells me that HTC did a great job of tweaking the software.
Posted by
JNGold,
Saturday, Sep. 20th, 2008
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Blue, the HD has more RAM and battery size in mahs why would it not be faster than the Diamond? The Diamond Pro is faster than the Diamond and it has the same hardware as the HD. It makes perfect sense to me that the HD is faster without taking anything away.
Posted by
Physboy,
Saturday, Sep. 20th, 2008
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It should be up in the YouTube video now: there's a so-so English translation. The big caveat is the unit shown is pre-production. For instance, the commentators keep saying how TouchFlo 3D is faster on the HD than the Diamond, but you have to wonder if anything is disabled on the HD allowing TouchFlo to run faster.
Still, a good look at what could be a very impressive device.
Posted by
bluewater,
Saturday, Sep. 20th, 2008
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Basically...
They liked:
.Screen resolution
.Sensitivity of the touch screen (very responsive (like the iphone)).
.Opera Mini rendered page better than Safari
.Rubberized back
.Bigger fonts in menus to accomodate fingers touch (vs stylus).
There was no SIM so they didn't test the phone part.
That's about it for this video.
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Tastes great....less filling. :)
Posted by
JNGold,
Thursday, Sep. 18th, 2008
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