Mobility Today Podcast #158

David,

Just so you know, my response: "TP2 has flash w/ 6.1 even. Gotta love Verizon crippling. lol" was to your original statement: "I thought windows phone 6.5 supported flash? Not working on the imagio. @HTC"
which clearly implies that 6.5 was not supporting ANY Flash content. You never stated that the Flash component works, but not for the sites that you wanted it to, e.g. Hulu, ESPN.

Since I assumed you were making an accurate & true implication about the state of the Imagio device, I presumed that Verizon had crippled (left out) the flash component of the browser since the Flash component exists on my 6.1 T-Mo TP2, (which takes HTC and MS out of the loop), and DOES work for the sites I have used, YouTube, your site and mine.

I never stated nor implied that the current WP 6.5 or 6.1 IE Flash component would or should be working on ALL Flash content on the web. This is NOT due to MS crippling as you stated on the show (false statement), that Active X component comes directly from Adobe NOT MS. Adobe is making a better one (the version you spoke of), not MS, which WILL support ALL Flash content and be available to ALL platforms EXCEPT iPhone for now. This new release, coincidently, will correspond to the market availability of better hardware. That is another discussion though.

So it follows: Does ALL the Flash content on the Internet work on 6.5 & 6.1? No. However, that does not mean that 6.5 & 6.1 do NOT support ANY Flash content, which is what your generalized statement implies.

Stating or implying that 6.5 does not support Flash or that it does not work in general, because certain Flash content does not work on it, is false. That is like stating that iPhone's Safari does not support web browsing or does not work, simply because there are certain sites which do NOT work with Safari. This is of course a known fact that iPhone Safari does NOT work will ALL Internet sites, specifically ZERO Flash based sites.

In addition, are you suggesting that Verizon does NOT have a history of crippling WP devices? They crippled BT DUN on many WP, they also, openly, made the claim that they will be crippling 6.5 devices by not including Marketplace. It is a fact, not a bandwagon fallacy, that Verizon has crippled WP devices in the past.

It was not kewl for you to take a misunderstanding due to your inaccurate statement, and turn it into a personal bash against me where you suggest that I was partaking in an argument from consensus fallacy as well as making false statements.

I hope you set the record straight with this, not kewl dude.