HTC Touch Video Review

If those specs are true then I would say we are starting to get closer to a Touch flavored Keiser that I spoke of earlier which would be well worth it at that point. Although, at the $200 price point it is still not a bad deal now.

FYI All - The "vogue" is on HTC's roadmap with a boatload of better specs in the Touch form factor. The downside is that it's a CDMA device. :(

"improper physical placement due to poor tolerance compliance"

One's explanation is already implying that the design of the product is poor in the first place to have the two sensors fail in such test. Did one already seen the placement of the components to give such claims?

"how well the manufacturing process kept to the designed tolerances"

Is one implying that the quality standards of the manufactruing process wasn't met?

One's more than wild guesses

I don't usually agree with CNET, but it pretty much sums what I think of the Touch:

"he HTC Touch boasts an innovative touch screen and sleek interface, but the lack of a sizable keyboard really limits the usability of this device. And despite being impressed by the beautiful hardware, the Windows Mobile smart phone lags in performance and needs a bit more tweaking before we're ready to snatch one up."

What discount are you referring to? I only see an unlocked price at MobilePlanet. You did say ALL carriers, correct? Please provide link.

JN you can get the same discount with all of the carriers. That means there is no need to switch carriers to get the device (the point you missed). Hmmm...a little thing that is not the same with the iPhone, 'cause AT&T is so much better. lol

I only suspected that you cared about the price since you were the one who brought it up to begin with as the first person to post on this article. I disagree that no one else cares about price since that is what people have mentioned all over the net, and what ALL of my clients have told me...Apple fanboys and non-WM users alike.

I thought the whole point of this article was that the Touch actually has more than Tri-band since it works in the US.

Regarding the two sensors having the potential to be damaged due to impact:

If you have as much technical knowledge as you claim, then you should understand that improper physical placement due to poor tolerance compliance can easily cause too much vibrational energy to be transferred to the components from external impacts. This can in turn (depending on how little the particular resonant frequency of vibration was dampened) cause soldering points to crack, or disrupt the doped junction points that the diodes use in order to function.

So....baring any testing of devices off the manufacturing line there is NO way to know without the empirical results.

Which is why I qualified the knowledge of whether or not any of the 3 key sensors would be affected from impacts to the phone by stating one would not only need to know exactly how they were configured, but ALSO how well the manufacturing process kept to the designed tolerances. The latter as previously explained can only be determined empirically vs conjecturally.

I don't just guess... I based it on my technical knowledge and years of exposure on electronics for consumer and industrial electronics devices.

I may agree that accelerometer may be damaged but won't agree with that on the light sensor and proximity. Light sensor don't need to be delicate parts. It may be the usual light sensitive diode with clear plastic capsule which I have seen and used for different electronic gadgets. Even throwing the device against the wall won't damage the light sensor.

Same as for the proximity sensor which is not delicate part also. It might be fixed to the screen or may be the screen itself. So if the screen is still intact then you could be assured that the proximity sensor's the same.

There are more delicate parts in the device than those two sensors like the LCD.

I think I have explained why I think those sensors would not fail but one should also give the basis why one should think that the two sensors would fail in the drop test.

Who cares how much it is? I don't. The soon to be million that purchased the iPhone don't care either. Talk to me when the Touch sells more devices than the iPhone. LOL!

Plus, even for the MS fan boys....there's no denying that Tri-band devices are not desireable in the US, and let's not forget EDGE ONLY! Don't get me started on the performance of the OMAP 850...especially when using MS Voice command or doing more than 1 or 2 things at a time.

Even funnier, let's see how many people leave their current carrier to jump on T-MO just to get a Touch. ROFL!

By the way JN, the Touch is only $304 with the contract from T-Mobile on the MobilePlanet website. If you are already a T-Mo customer, they will give you up to $200.00 credit for it if you are near the end of your contract. Again, way cheeper than iPhone.

I agree that the glass breaking would be more of a concern, but as I mentioned, I have yet to meet the device whose screen broke from a similar drop as the iPhone was subjected to.

In addition, how does one insist that having the screen black out when it is not on your face or the screen not increase in brightness outside would not be a major issue. These are both feasible issues that can arrise if either the ambient light sensor or proximity sensor are broken. The accelerometer not working can stop things from rotating when you turn the device sideways or rotate when you have not turned it sideways. I see that as a big problem.

Unless you know exactly how those components are placed in the device and have tested their functionality after being subjected to the punishment that was given to the device, it is purely conjecture to assert that they are not being damaged.

I am not saying that the definitely would get damaged, but the potential is there and they did, in fact, NOT elaborate on those points.

Accelerometer... that I don't know if it would fail...
But proximity and ambient light sensors is no way related to the motion or impact in the body of the device...
Proximity sensor uses capacitive sensing while ambient light sensor is using light sensitive device. This sensors are fixed to the device same as the other electronic components.

And I'm more concern on the GLASS screen rather than the sensors that one is always insisting to surely fail in such test. If those sensors fail, the device may or may not work. But if the screens breaks, then the device is done!

Another thing is that MDA, HP6315 and Cassiopiea don't have the same screen as TOUCH (glass screen). A drop might break the screen or any dent or scratch may ruin the resistive layer on the screen which I guess is not repairable unless whole screen would be replaced.

I also do not get the whole deal with the Tri/Quad specs. It is possible that 900Mhz is starting to be used here as well though. You will know for sure when they go for their FCC approval of the device.

Not just the form factor, did you see how EASY it is to close apps and access all of the soft-buttons JN?? ;)

Sounds way louder than iPhone and with Opera Mobile as well as probably being $200 to $300 with a contract, well....I'll just let the numbers do the talking. Also, wait till the Keiser comes in the Touch variety. =O

Scratch and drop test?? Where in that video did they show whether or not the three key sensors (accelerometer, proximity and ambient light) were still working after the concrete drop? No sensors to worry about in the Touch.

If one is looking for a ruggedized device then you need to be looking elsewhere besides the standard mobile device market. These types of devices are made to deal with everyday USE not everyday ABUSE. I have dropped my MDA, hp6315 and Cassiopiea before and never observed any issues with the performance. I do not see why this would be any different for the Touch.

I would love to see the scratch and drop test on this device. :-D Like the one done by pc world on a different mobile phone that has a glass touchscreen too.

I think quality is important too!

I am not quite sure what to think re: tri/Quad band. It seem to me like it's a big blunder on the part of HTC if indeed the device is quad when all the marketing material and spec listings say otherwise.

$549 at Expansys for a OMAP 200mhz and EDGE only? No thanks. Even though, that form factor looks to die for.... :)